Any Opsariichthys uncirostris with 50+ lateral line scales in China?

chedra · 发表于 2011-6-9 02:15

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Is the Op. uncirostris that is supposed to be in northeastern China Opsariichthys uncirostris amurensis; the one with lateral line scale count 46-48?

Also is Opsariichthys = horsemouth fish or largemouth fish?

黑鲷 · 发表于 2011-6-9 18:02

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In China, Opsariichthys uncirostris is a wrong record，all the fishes called horsemouth fish in northeastern China is Opsariicjthys bidens.
In Taiwan,the Candidia sp also is called horsemouth fish and a new species named Opsariichthys hainanensis was be find in Hainan island.

风暴鸟海瑶 · 发表于 2011-6-9 18:05

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chedra 发表于 2011-6-9 02:15

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Is the Op. uncirostris that is supposed to be in northeastern China Opsariichthys uncirostris amuren ...

Opsariichthys uncirostris amurensis  is invalid subspecies.

China has not Opsariichthys uncirostris. Distribution in China is Opsariichthys bidens.

BTW  Opsariichthys bidens‘s chinese name is 南方马口鱲，mean South  horsemouth fish .

Opsariichthys uncirostris’s chinese name is 真马口鱲 mean True  horsemouth fish.

黑鲷 · 发表于 2011-6-9 18:51

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Opsariichthys uncirostris amurensis is invalid subspecies.

China has not Opsariichthys uncir ...

南方马口鱲（Opsariichthys uncirostris bidens） isn't a valid subspecies,Opsariichthys bidens is a separate valid species , have no difference between north and south.

chedra · 发表于 2011-6-10 00:11

Thanks. So in China O. bidens = O. uncirostris amurensis.{:6_223:} Does the Korean and Russian O. uncirostris amurensis also O. bidens?

Off topic: what does 鱲 or 鱲 in the Chinese name of small mouth Zacco/Opsariichthys species mean?

风暴鸟海瑶 · 发表于 2011-6-10 00:30

鱲 in chinese mean all Opsariichthys and Zacco species .Also includes Barilius、Candidia、Nipponocypris、Parazacco、Raiamas species. It is a scientific term.Named for the fish.

But fans called, in general, does not include Opsariichthy bidens and O.uncirostris.

They call that two species “horses mouth fish”

chedra · 发表于 2011-6-10 01:35

本帖最后由 chedra 于 2011-6-10 01:37 编辑

How do you pronounce 鱲? Is there common nonscientific related Chinese name for Zacco/small mouth Opsariichthys species?

风暴鸟海瑶 · 发表于 2011-6-10 02:33

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"鱲"sounds and "列"the same.

You can use Google Translate to read "列".

YES， There is common nonscientific related Chinese name for Zacco/small mouth Opsariichthys species。

BTW

Genus Zacco in chinese is 鱲属，鱲=Zacco，属=Genus

Genus Opsariichthys in chinese is 马口鱲属，马口鱲=Opsariichthys，mean“some fish look like Zacco but they have a big mouth like horse”.Because in this geuns the first to be named is O.uncirostris.